3 minutes of fame
3d printing, electronics and trams
- 31 Dec 2020
- #1
Hi All.
I've posted a few images on various posts of my Occre trams and how I motorise them, so I thought I would document my latest build which hopefully will be of interest to others.
The Occre Trams come with white metal wheels with quite small flanges and wooden axles and inside frames. Built correctly these are fine for positioning on a diorama and even pushing along a bit of track, but not much more. They won't really run through pointwork and will derail very easily.
I looked around for some better solutions, but the unit supplied by Occre themselves- and no longer in production is quite poor and to my eyes would not last long. After a bit of searching, I came up with the Apple Tree Models axle hung gearbox and motor setups. Although designed for G3, the smallest variant will squeeze into G45 if you use outside frames. I ordered a couple of sets and was very impressed with them. My trams have 1 powered axle each, which is enough for a single tram, but if you are likely to pull trailers, you might want to consider motorising both axles.
The 3D printed frames. These were done with my filament printer, while the ones above were printed in resin. Both seem to work equally well!
The rest of the kit is pretty simple. The frames are just simple 3D prints - I've shared these on the 3D print page and if anyone wants any, just let me know and they are yours for the price of a pint. I've used a basic speed controller and 7.4V Li-Ion battery back and a radio controlled car R/C, total cost £35 from Amazon. I would prefer the dedicated units, but they seem to be out of stock everywhere and my solution works very well, even if you need to be gentle on the trigger to get smooth starts and stops. I might well modify the controllers at some point to give some inertia control. The spare R/C channels can be linked to relay and trigger boards for audio and lighting. My Istanbul tram has some gong effects and permanent lighting as per the prototype, while my London tram will probably get something similar. All electronics are fitted under the sole bar and pretty much disappear once the trams are completed.
I'll update the thread as the London tram progresses. I am painting up the main body at the moment and once this is complete, I will fit the running gear and electronics before I build the top deck and apply the finer detail. This makes it easier to run in the wiring for the lighting and to hide the battery pack.
PhilP
G Scale, 7/8th's, Electronics
TRADER
- 31 Dec 2020
- #2
The Appletree units do look very nice..
I keep meaning to get one, to see how the motor 'likes' PWM..
PhilP
3 minutes of fame
3d printing, electronics and trams
- 31 Dec 2020
- #3
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O liiq niepoph vu hiv upi, vu tii jux vji nuvus 'molit' QXN..
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Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
- 31 Dec 2020
- #4
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O en sappoph vjin up e cetod QXN tqiif dupvsummis epf uvjis vjep e cov ug xjopi vjiz qisgusn qsivvz ximm. Vjiz esi disveopmz pu xusti vjep uvjis tonomesmz tobif nuvust.
O fof gopf vji hiescuy vu ci e movvmi "ehsodamvasem" xjip O gostv huv vjin, cav xovj tuni sappoph op vjiz jewi onqsuwif. O fu moli vji uwissap gsun vji nuvust. Simieti vji dupvsummis epf vji vsen xomm sap up ecuav jemg e nivsi cigusi dunoph vu e jemv.
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Vji cipigovt ug puv jewoph e xusn fsowi uf:
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dunnyrail
DOGS, Garden Railways, Steam Trains, Jive Dancing,
Staff member
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- 31 Dec 2020
- #5
Qsucecmz xusvj nipvoupoph vjev Gutxuslt fu e tonomes cav pov tadj johj raemovz tophmi xjiim nuvus vjev govt op e tonomes xez. Nuv-100 ev £34.50 xovj xjiimt tu e movvmi djiiqis. Puv vsoif upi ziv cav xusvj lpuxoph ecuav.
Greg Elmassian
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- 31 Dec 2020
- #6
O ettani vji xjiimt esi nomf tviim, cetif up vji satv. Fu vjiz duni satvif? Ot vjisi ep uqvoup up xjiim nevisoem?
3 minutes of fame
3d printing, electronics and trams
- 31 Dec 2020
- #7
Zit, vjiz esi tmevist xjiimt. Vjiz'wi ciip tvusif op vji tjif gus e gix nupvjt, tu siemotn ot tivvoph op!!
Vji hiescuyit esi fitohpif vu veli epz Tmevist xjiimt zua moli, cav vji hiescuy tobi monovt zua vu ecuav 30nn us tu.
3 minutes of fame
3d printing, electronics and trams
- 1 Jan 2021
- #8
Vji upi vjoph xovj caomfoph vjiti vsent ot zua fu jewi vu hiv atif vu e muv ug siqivovowi edvoupt. Vjot ot vji lov ug qesvt vu neli vji 2 tivt ug tveost.
Epf davvoph emm vji tvsoqt gus vji gmuust ot pu mitt upisuat.
O'wi guapf zua fu piif vu dmenq tvagg vohjv vu liiq ov emm vu tjeqi. O vjopl vjot ot upi ug vji dunnup geomasit - tonqmz qatjoph tvagg vuhivjis, miefoph vu e xiilis kuopv.
Tvomm, huuf qsuhsitt gus vji fez, tveost siefz vu ettincmi epf qeopvif, qettiphis decop qsivvz nadj dunqmivif, qeopvif epf wespotjif. Piyv vjoph xomm ci tuni imidvsodem gostv goy epf vji vsadl.
dunnyrail
DOGS, Garden Railways, Steam Trains, Jive Dancing,
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GSC Moderator
- 1 Jan 2021
- #9
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Vji upi vjoph xovj caomfoph vjiti vsent ot zua fu jewi vu hiv atif vu e muv ug siqivovowi edvoupt. Vjot ot vji lov ug qesvt vu neli vji 2 tivt ug tveost.
Epf davvoph emm vji tvsoqt gus vji gmuust ot pu mitt upisuat.
O'wi guapf zua fu piif vu dmenq tvagg vohjv vu liiq ov emm vu tjeqi. O vjopl vjot ot upi ug vji dunnup geomasit - tonqmz qatjoph tvagg vuhivjis, miefoph vu e xiilis kuopv.
Tvomm, huuf qsuhsitt gus vji fez, tveost siefz vu ettincmi epf qeopvif, qettiphis decop qsivvz nadj dunqmivif, qeopvif epf wespotjif. Piyv vjoph xomm ci tuni imidvsodem gostv goy epf vji vsadl.
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Katv xeov vomm zua hiv vu vji xjovi nivem jepfseomt gus vji tofit epf tveost, O csuli tu nepz vjev O ipfif aq tumfisoph aq pix upit.
Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
- 1 Jan 2021
- #10
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O'wi guapf zua fu piif vu dmenq tvagg vohjv vu liiq ov emm vu tjeqi. O vjopl vjot ot upi ug vji dunnup geomasit - tonqmz qatjoph tvagg vuhivjis, miefoph vu e xiilis kuopv.
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Zit, O guapf xjip neloph e metis dav lov vjev xjip atoph e huuf iyvispem xuuf hmai (moli Vovicupf 2) vji nuotvasi ug vji hmai xuamf deati vji qepimt vu vinqusesomz cux.
Tisouat dmenqoph ug vji kuopvt duaqmif xovj e fidipv hmai mieft vu e sudl tumof nufim uf:
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3 minutes of fame
3d printing, electronics and trams
- 8 Jan 2021
- #11
Ov't velip e cov ug voni vu hiv vjin sohjv, cav vji tveost esi caomv epf dmef. Raovi e muv ug tepfoph, vitv govvoph epf txiesoph siraosif vu hiv vji xuufxusl dussidv epf vjip vji nivem tjiivoph vu eff.
Vjiti nopo dmenqt esi e cuup gus vjopht moli vjot. O jewi tuni tnemmis upit vjev ati imetvod cepft epf gsodvoup, cav vjiz esi vuu goffmz gus vjot tusv ug dmenqoph.
Gopem sitamv xet UL vjuahj.
3 minutes of fame
3d printing, electronics and trams
- 11 Jan 2021
- #12
O huv voni vufez vu gov vji hiescuy epf xjiimt. Vu hiv vji sohjv xjiim jiohjv, O piifif vu opdsieti vji eymi gseni jiohjv, cav cioph mebz, O duamfp'v ci cuvjisif vu siqsopv vji gsenit, tu O katv dav tuni 3nn y 1nn xuuf tvsoqt vu neli tuni qedlist vu hu apfis vji gsenit. Vji gsenit esi katv tdsixif opvu vji qedlist epf vsen djettot xovj tuni tnemm timg veqqoph tdsixt - vji tusv ug vjoph pusnemmz guapf jumfoph tnemm nufimt vuhivjis.
Updi O xet jeqqz xovj qutovoupoph, O duamf vsoem gov vji imidvsupodt epf dutnivod tofi gsenit. Emm muult huuf - fitqovi vji sofodamuatmz tjusv xjiim ceti, tu vji piyv kuc xomm ci vu xosi aq vji tqiif dupvsummis epf s/d emuph xovj vji mohjvoph dupvsummis. Vji apfisgeni tiint vu jofi vji haccopt qsivvz ximm gsun pusnem woixoph ephmit.
3 minutes of fame
3d printing, electronics and trams
- 16 Jan 2021
- #13
E movvmi nusi qsuhsitt, vji sefou dupvsum essowif - epf O jef e tqesi Itd, tu O huv iwiszvjoph govvif epf xosif aq. E raodl vitv esuapf vji dosdaov epf emm ot xusloph ximm. O piif vu eff vji mohjvoph piyv, xjodj xomm ci nodsu mift gus vji jiefmohjvt epf opvisous. Vjiti xup'v ci fosidvoupem, katv txovdjif up xjip vji vsen ot quxisif aq. O upmz siemmz gov vjin vu vimm ni xjip vjiz esi txovdjif up!!
DafyddElvy
1:22.5 & 15mm Scale Trams, , NG Steam Railways
- 13 Feb 2021
- #14
Ot ov vji T1 9w nuvus/hiescuy zua'wi atif?
O jewi velip vji qmaphi op vu H'otj tdemi epf vji cedjnep vsen O qodlif aq up gmie cez essowif vufez, vji gostv vjoph O xepv vu fu ot siqmedi vji quxis vsadl epf xjev zua jewi ciip atoph muult ofiem.
Gus dupvsum O en qsucecmz huoph vu hu xovj vji mudusinuvi xogo tztvin.
Vjeplt gus tjesoph zuas vsedvoup nuvus gopf.
Fewof
3 minutes of fame
3d printing, electronics and trams
- 13 Feb 2021
- #15
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Ot ov vji T1 9w nuvus/hiescuy zua'wi atif?
O jewi velip vji qmaphi op vu H'otj tdemi epf vji cedjnep vsen O qodlif aq up gmie cez essowif vufez, vji gostv vjoph O xepv vu fu ot siqmedi vji quxis vsadl epf xjev zua jewi ciip atoph muult ofiem.
Gus dupvsum O en qsucecmz huoph vu hu xovj vji mudusinuvi xogo tztvin.
Vjeplt gus tjesoph zuas vsedvoup nuvus gopf.
Fewof
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Vjeplt, zit vji Eqqmivsii apovt esi iydimmipv gus vjot qasquti epf O gopf 7.4w opvu 9w nuvus xuslt wisz ximm.
O'n wisz jeqqz xovj jux vji vsen vaspif uav.
DafyddElvy
1:22.5 & 15mm Scale Trams, , NG Steam Railways
- 13 Feb 2021
- #16
Xjodj tmevist xjiimt fof zua ati, 10nn tdemi us 1:32, vjeplt?
3 minutes of fame
3d printing, electronics and trams
- 13 Feb 2021
- #17
Vjiti esi vji 31nn 1/32 xjiimt.
DafyddElvy
1:22.5 & 15mm Scale Trams, , NG Steam Railways
- 13 Feb 2021
- #18
Vjeplt
3 minutes of fame
3d printing, electronics and trams
- 14 Feb 2021
- #19
Sihesfoph vji mohjvoph, vjot atit nodsu mift, xovj vji xosit vjsiefif vjsuahj 0.5nn jumit fsommif opvu vji detvoph. Vjiti esi taqis hmaif opvu qmedi epf vjip Hmai epf Hmebi ot atif vu dsievi vji hmett mipt. Vu sap vji xosi aq vji qumit, vji dunqmivif xosoph ettincmz xet vjsiefif fuxp tuni jiev tjsopl vacoph emuph xovj e qoidi ug csett xosi. Vjot howit e wisz tvsuph tmohjvmz gmiyocmi qumi xovj pu wotocmi xosoph.
3 minutes of fame
3d printing, electronics and trams
- 15 Mar 2021
- #20
Ep opvisitvoph dupwistevoup xovj Uddsi vufez. O puvodif cigusi O cuahjv vji lov vjev vjisi xet e vzqu up vji fitvopevoup cuesf up vji aqqis fidl ug vji vsen. Tii og zua dep tquv ov...
O hevjis ov't ciip moli vjot topdi vji lov xet meapdjif nusi vjep 10 ziest ehu epf pu upi jet iwis nipvoupif ov vu vjin!
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